Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux-NTFS project, first public release

[Jeff V. Merkey]

On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 01:43:54AM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> At 02:02 04/02/2001, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> >On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 12:37:16AM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> >I am noticeable impressed with your ability to address these issues.
> 
> (-:
> 
> >Microsoft would be much happier I am certain with a pure Linux solution
> >for this problem.  They have been incredibly tolerant in allowing
> 
> Believe me, so would I! It's a long way to go to having a fully functional 
> ntfsck Linux utility, but we will get there eventually. And of course, the 
> actual driver is under heavy development both by Yuri Per of Acronis Ltd. 
> and myself at the moment (he is probably doing more than me as he does this 
> as part of a full time job...). In fact I am sitting on a very nice patch 
> for the driver at the moment but want to do some testing before I send it 
> off to Alan as it does quite a lot of fixing including a nasty race I found 
> staring at the code yesterday and several bug fixes and clean ups (or 
> rather rewrites of some functions almost) courtesy of Yuri. So the 
> importance of ntfsfix should become smaller and smaller as time goes on 
> until eventually we won't need it all. (-:
> 
> >me to help customers with trashed drives, but I am sure you are
> >aware that they were only tolerating it since it was helping
> >customers who use both NT and Linux, and even this was quite
> >a stretch they did not have to go.   It's a statement that even in
> >those cases where tey may be helping Linux, they put their customers
> >needs first (this took some convincing on my part).
> 
> Yes, I am aware of that. I very much doubt that Microsoft would be helping 
> Linux without an extremely good reason. I guess the only way part of 
> Microsoft might start working with/on Linux would be if the DOJ would split 
> the company up in two parts OS/Servers and Office apps. If that would 
> happen the Office part would have a growing market interest in a Linux 
> port, which at the moment is out of the question as Office is probably one 
> of the last barriers to a mass user migration to Linux. - Imagine all the 
> office and home environments where Windows is used solely for the purpose 
> of using Microsoft Word/Excel. They could all switch to Linux and many 
> would probably do so if Word/Excel would exist under Linux... It would be 
> very cost effective, too. - Oh well, one can dream. (-;
> 
> >They are very angry at me right now for even doing this in the
> >first place, and I doubt the relationship will ever be back on
> >the keel it was originally, but since I work on Linux almost
> >exslusively now, I do not think it matters.
> 
> While it doesn't matter, I am sure things will improve over time.
> 
> >Good Work, A++.
> 
> Thanks! (-:
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>          Anton
> 
> > > At 01:16 04/02/2001, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> > > >To date, I have provided tools to 7,000+ folks who use this driver that
> > > >trash their NTFS partitions.  TRG will discontinue distribution of these
> > > >tools at this point since Anton has a Linux based version.
> > > >
> > > >Please do not email me for any more NT based repair tools for damaged
> > > >NTFS partitions trashed by Linux.  Please contact Andre and use his
> > >
> > > You probably meant Anton in the sentence above...
> > >
> > > >tools instead.  I will inform Microsoft I will no longer be providing
> > > >these tools since Anton now has something that will do the job.
> > >
> > > The NTFS disk edit utility you were providing does quite a lot more since
> > > it is interactive. And my utility doesn't do everything I would like it to
> > > do yet but it does work so I wanted to push a release out of the door 
> > ASAP.
> > > But it doesn't really matter. The NTFS disk editor is a relatively freely
> > > available utility as I found out recently, anyways. It is present on the
> > > Windows NT4 Service Pack 4 CD! It's not mentioned anywhere in the
> > > documentation but it sure is there among the service pack files. I managed
> > > to dig the out in our College computer office and it's now officially 
> > mine.
> > > That has the advantage of not binding you to the license of only using it
> > > for repairing NTFS partitions... (-:
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Anton
> > >

Hell will freeze, and the US will break off from the continental mass and 
sink into the oceans before I think MS will ever endorse Linux 
officially.  I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  

:-)

Jeff 

> > >
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> > > Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
> > > Linux NTFS Maintainer / WWW: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/
> > > ICQ: 8561279 / WWW: http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/
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> Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
> Linux NTFS Maintainer / WWW: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/
> ICQ: 8561279 / WWW: http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/
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