-- Andy
> From: Daniel Harvey [mailto:daniel@amristar.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 1:34 AM
> To: linux-laptop@mobilix.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: UPDATE: Linux SLOW on Compaq Armada 110 PIII Speedstep
> Importance: High
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I submitted this request about a week ago, and have tested some of the
> suggestions raised. See below for results. For completeness I
> include my
> original post.
>
> ------
> UPDATE
> ------
>
> Every kernel runs DOG slow except for a vanilla 2.2.14 with the patch
> included below (patch taken from the RedHat kernel-2.2.14-5.0.src.rpm
> package.
>
> This patch makes this following change to the kernel as
> reported on bootup:
>
> < dcache_init(259068880l)Dentry hash table entries: 262144
> (order 9, 2048k)
> ---
> > dcache_init(257984l)Dentry hash table entries: 32768 (order 6, 256k)
>
> However, even if I manually increase this cache size in the
> 2.4.5 kernel, it
> still runs DOG slow. i.e. make dep takes 30-45 mins
>
> Note that I have confirmed memory + disk bandwidth seems ok
> on the face of
> it:
>
> Stream reports
> Function Rate (MB/s) RMS time Min time Max time
> Copy: 220.6927 0.1457 0.1450 0.1466
> Scale: 215.8473 0.1485 0.1483 0.1488
> Add: 266.8000 0.1805 0.1799 0.1813
> Triad: 243.0946 0.1978 0.1975 0.1983
>
> # hdparm -tT /dev/hda
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.21 seconds =105.79 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.79 seconds = 16.89 MB/sec
>
> So I don't know what to think, any suggestions?
>
> cat >linux-2.2.13-bigmem-dcache.patch <<EOF
> --- linux/fs/dcache.c.bigmem-dcache Tue Nov 16 18:41:05 1999
> +++ linux/fs/dcache.c Tue Nov 16 18:42:19 1999
> @@ -860,12 +860,11 @@
> return ino;
> }
>
> -void __init dcache_init(void)
> +void __init dcache_init(unsigned long memory_size)
> {
> int i, order;
> struct list_head *d;
> unsigned int nr_hash;
> - unsigned long memory_size;
>
> /*
> * A constructor could be added for stable state like the lists,
> @@ -883,9 +882,6 @@
> if (!dentry_cache)
> panic("Cannot create dentry cache");
>
> - memory_size = num_physpages << PAGE_SHIFT;
> - memory_size >>= 13;
> - memory_size *= 2 * sizeof(void *);
> for (order = 0; ((1UL << order) << PAGE_SHIFT) <
> memory_size; order++);
>
> do {
> --- linux/init/main.c.bigmem-dcache Tue Nov 16 18:41:06 1999
> +++ linux/init/main.c Tue Nov 16 18:41:08 1999
> @@ -1217,7 +1217,7 @@
> #endif
> uidcache_init();
> filescache_init();
> - dcache_init();
> + dcache_init(memory_end-memory_start);
> vma_init();
> buffer_init(memory_end-memory_start);
> page_cache_init(memory_end-memory_start);
> --- linux/include/linux/fs.h.bigmem-dcache Tue Nov 16 18:41:06 1999
> +++ linux/include/linux/fs.h Tue Nov 16 18:41:08 1999
> @@ -171,7 +171,7 @@
> extern void buffer_init(unsigned long);
> extern void inode_init(void);
> extern void file_table_init(void);
> -extern void dcache_init(void);
> +extern void dcache_init(unsigned long);
>
> typedef char buffer_block[BLOCK_SIZE];
> EOF
>
> -------------
> ORIGINAL POST
> -------------
>
> [1.] Linux SLOW on Compaq Armada 110 PIII Speedstep
>
> [2.]
>
> I have a just brought a Compaq Armade 110 PIII, and am having a lot of
> trouble getting the kernel to operate effectively. The
> problem is that any
> kernel I run (except one pre-compiled RedHat kernel) runs
> very slowly. The
> thing is that disk IO tests seem fine, BogoMIPS reports high,
> but the system
> is dog-slow (kernel make dep takes ~45mins).
>
> The kernel which works FAST (read ok) is:
> Linux version 2.2.14-5.0 (root@porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version
> egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Tue Mar
> 7 21:07:39 EST
> 2000
>
> One of the kernels which works SLOW (have tried right through
> to 2.4.5):
> Linux version 2.2.14 (root@elvandar) (gcc version 2.95.4
> 20010604 (Debian
> prerelease))
>
> [3.] Keywords - kernel, cpu, notebook, laptop
> [4.] Linux version 2.2.14 (root@elvandar) (gcc version 2.95.4 20010604
> (Debian prerelease))
> - although is as SLOW on any kernel up to 2.4.5 except
> the one above.
> [5.] Output of Oops.. - N/A
> [6.] Shell script - N/A
>
> [7.] Environment
> [7.1.] Software
> Gnu C 2.95.4
> Gnu make 3.79.1
> binutils 2.11.90.0.7
> util-linux
> util-linux Note: /usr/bin/fdformat is obsolete
> and is no longer
> available.
> util-linux Please use /usr/bin/superformat
> instead (make sure
> you have the
> util-linux fdutils package installed first).
> Also, there had
> been some
> util-linux major changes from version 4.x.
> Please refer to the
> documentation.
> util-linux
> mount 2.10f
> modutils 2.4.6
> e2fsprogs 1.18
> pcmcia-cs 3.1.22
> PPP 2.4.1
> Linux C Library 2.2.3
> Dynamic linker (ldd) 2.2.3
> Procps 2.0.6
> Net-tools 1.54
> Console-tools 0.2.3
> Sh-utils 2.0
> Modules Loaded ds i82365 pcmcia_core eepro100 vfat fat smbfs
>
> [7.2.] Processor info.
> One kernel which runs SLOW:
> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> cpu family : 6
> model : 8
> model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
> stepping : 6
> cpu MHz : 797.084
> cache size : 256 KB
> fdiv_bug : no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug : no
> coma_bug : no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 3
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr
> pge mca cmov pat pse36
> mmx fxsr sse
> bogomips : 1589.24
>
> Kernel which runs acceptably (speed wise):
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> cpu family : 6
> model : 8
> model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
> stepping : 6
> cpu MHz : 797.050962
> cache size : 256 KB
> fdiv_bug : no
> hlt_bug : no
> sep_bug : no
> f00f_bug : no
> coma_bug : no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 3
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat
> pse36 pn mmx fxsr xmm
> bogomips : 794.62
>
> [7.3.] Module information
> ds 6736 1
> i82365 29808 1
> pcmcia_core 44480 0 [ds i82365]
> eepro100 15696 1
> vfat 9312 0 (unused)
> fat 30368 0 [vfat]
> smbfs 25600 0 (unused)
>
> [7.4.] Loaded driver and hardware information (/proc/ioports,
> /proc/iomem)
> 0000-001f : dma1
> 0020-003f : pic1
> 0040-005f : timer
> 0060-006f : keyboard
> 0070-007f : rtc
> 0080-008f : dma page reg
> 00a0-00bf : pic2
> 00c0-00df : dma2
> 00f0-00ff : fpu
> 0170-0177 : ide1
> 01f0-01f7 : ide0
> 02f8-02ff : serial(set)
> 0376-0376 : ide1
> 03c0-03df : vga+
> 03f6-03f6 : ide0
> 03f8-03ff : serial(set)
> 1460-1467 : ide0
> 1468-146f : ide1
> d0046000-d004601f : Intel Speedo3 Ethernet
>
> [7.5.] PCI information ('lspci -vvv' as root)
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo
> ProMedia] (rev
> 05)
> Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV-
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR+
> Latency: 0
> Region 0: Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
> Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0
> Status: RQ=7 SBA+ 64bit- FW- Rate=x1,x2
> Command: RQ=0 SBA- AGP- 64bit- FW- Rate=<none>
>
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo
> ProMedia AGP]
> (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV-
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR+
> Latency: 0
> Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
> I/O behind bridge: 0000f000-00000fff
> Memory behind bridge: f4100000-f57fffff
> Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fff00000-000fffff
> BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA+ VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
>
> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo
> Super South]
> (rev 22)
> Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686/A PCI to ISA Bridge
> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV-
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
> Latency: 0
>
> 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 10)
> (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
> Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV-
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
> Latency: 64
> Region 4: I/O ports at 1460
> Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
> Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
> PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
> Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
>
> 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev
> 10) (prog-if 00
> [UHCI])
> Subsystem: Unknown device 0925:1234
> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
> Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 11
> Region 4: I/O ports at 1440
> Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
> Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
> PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
> Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
>
> 00:07.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super
> ACPI] (rev 30)
> Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV-
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
> Capabilities: [68] Power Management version 2
> Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
> PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
> Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
>
> 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio
> Controller (rev 20)
> Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device b194
> Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV-
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
> Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 9
> Region 0: I/O ports at 1000
> Region 1: I/O ports at 1474
> Region 2: I/O ports at 1470
> Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
> Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
> PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
> Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
>
> 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557
> [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev
> 09) Subsystem: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 2201
> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+
> VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- <TAbort-
> <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
> Latency: 66 (2000ns min, 14000ns max), cache line size 08
> Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
> Region 0: Memory at f4020000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> Region 1: I/O p
>
> [7.6.] SCSI information (from /proc/scsi/scsi) - N/A
>
> [7.7.] Other information that might be relevant to the problem
> (please look in /proc and include all information that you
> think to be relevant):
>
> There is a few messages that I am not clear on in the boot-up
> sequence.
>
> For the kernel which runs FAST:
> Linux version 2.2.14-5.0 (root@porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version
> egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Tue Mar
> 7 21:07:39 EST
> 2000
> Detected 797050962 Hz processor.
> Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
> Calibrating delay loop... 794.62 BogoMIPS
> Memory: 253564k/257984k available (1060k kernel code, 416k
> reserved, 2880k
> data, 64k init, 0k bigmem)
> Dentry hash table entries: 262144 (order 9, 2048k)
> Buffer cache hash table entries: 262144 (order 8, 1024k)
> Page cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k)
> VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
> CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06
> Enabling extended fast FPU save and restore...done.
> Not enabling KNI unmasked exception support
> Exception 19 error handler not integrated yet
> Disabling CPUID Serial number...done.
> Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error
> reporting.
> Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
> POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
> mtrr: v1.35a (19990819) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd83e
> PCI: Using configuration type 1
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
> Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
> NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
> NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
> IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
> TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 262144 bhash 65536)
> Initializing RT netlink socket
> Starting kswapd v 1.5
> Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
> Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
> ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
> ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
> pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
> apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.9)
> Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
> RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
> VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
> VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1460-0x1467, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1468-0x146f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
> hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
> hdc: LG DVD-ROM DRN-8060B, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> hda: IBM-DJSA-210, 9590MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=1222/255/63
> hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache
> Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
> Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
> raid5: measuring checksumming speed
> raid5: KNI detected, trying cache-avoiding KNI checksum routine
> pIII_kni : 20.574 MB/sec
> raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
> pII_mmx : 18.288 MB/sec
> p5_mmx : 17.145 MB/sec
> 8regs : 9.525 MB/sec
> 32regs : 5.715 MB/sec
> using fastest function: pIII_kni (20.574 MB/sec)
> scsi : 0 hosts.
> scsi : detected total.
> md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
> Partition check:
> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 >
> autodetecting RAID arrays
> autorun ...
> ... autorun DONE.
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 64k freed
> Adding Swap: 248996k swap-space (priority -1)
> eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker
> http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/eepro100.html
> eepro100.c: $Revision: 1.18 $ 1999/12/29 Modified by Andrey
> V. Savochkin
> <saw@msu.ru>
> The PCI BIOS has not enabled this device! Updating PCI command
> 0013->0017.
> eth0: OEM i82557/i82558 10/100 Ethernet at 0xd0046000,
> 00:D0:59:2A:84:EB,
> IRQ 11.
> Receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling work-around.
> Board assembly 980100-000, Physical connectors present: RJ45
> Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
> General self-test: passed.
> Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
> Internal registers self-test: passed.
> ROM checksum self-test: passed (0xdbd8681d).
> eth0: 0 multicast blocks dropped.
> Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.8
> kernel build: 2.2.14-5.0 #1 Tue Mar 7 21:07:39 EST 2000
> options: [pci] [cardbus] [apm]
> Intel PCIC probe:
> Unknown [0x104c 0xac50] PCI-to-CardBus at bus 0 slot 10,
> mem 0x68000000, 1
> socket
> host opts [0]: [no pci irq] [lat 32/176] [bus 32/34]
> ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,5,7,10 polling interval = 1000 ms
> cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: excluding 0xcf8-0xcff
> cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
> cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x158-0x15f 0x378-0x37f
> 0x4d0-0x4d7
> cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
>
> For one of the kernel's which runs SLOW:
> Linux version 2.2.14 (root@elvandar) (gcc version 2.95.4
> 20010604 (Debian
> prerelease)) #3 Tue Jun 26 11:10:12 WST 2001
> Detected 797050962 Hz processor.
> Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
> Calibrating delay loop... 794.62 BogoMIPS
> Memory: 253904k/257984k available (880k kernel code, 416k
> reserved, 2744k
> data, 40k init)
> Dentry hash table entries: 32768 (order 6, 256k)
> Buffer cache hash table entries: 262144 (order 8, 1024k)
> Page cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k)
> Pentium-III serial number disabled.
> CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06
> Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error
> reporting.
> Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
> Checking for popad bug... OK.
> POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd83e
> PCI: Using configuration type 1
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
> Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
> NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
> NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
> IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
> TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 262144 bhash 65536)
> Starting kswapd v 1.5
> Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
> Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
> ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
> ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
> pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
> apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.9)
> VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
> VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1460-0x1467, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1468-0x146f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
> hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
> hdc: LG DVD-ROM DRN-8060B, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> hda: IBM-DJSA-210, 9590MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=1222/255/63
> hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache
> Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
> Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> The PCI BIOS has not enabled this device! Updating PCI command
> 0013->0017.
> eth0: Invalid EEPROM checksum 0x7b73, check settings before
> activating this
> device!
> eth0: Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 at 0x1400,
> 00:B4:00:80:00:A6, IRQ 11.
> Receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling work-around.
> Board assembly 800080-000, Physical connectors present:
> Primary interface chip None PHY #0.
> General self-test: passed.
> Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
> Internal registers self-test: passed.
> ROM checksum self-test: passed (0xdbd8681d).
> Receiver lock-up workaround activated.
> Partition check:
> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 >
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 40k freed
> Adding Swap: 248996k swap-space (priority -1)
>
> [X.] Other notes, patches, fixes, workarounds:
> I reiterate - I have got the machine running acceptably (read
> speed is what
> I expect) by change on one pre-compiled RedHat kernel. EVERY
> other kernel I
> have compiled & tried runs DOG SLOW.
>
> Would appreciate any help.
> --
> Daniel Harvey <daniel@amristar.com.au> Phone/Fax +61 8 9389 7844/33
> Director, Amristar Pty Ltd; www.amristar.com.au Mobile +61 41 444 8136
>
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