Re: large page patch (fwd) (fwd)

David Mosberger (davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com)
Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:19:59 -0700


>>>>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:34:08 -0700 (PDT), Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> said:

Linus> We may well expand the FS layer to bigger pages, but "bigger"
Linus> is almost certainly not going to include things like 256MB
Linus> pages - if for no other reason than the fact that memory
Linus> fragmentation really means that the limit on page sizes in
Linus> practice is somewhere around 128kB for any reasonable usage
Linus> patterns even with gigabytes of RAM.

Linus> And _maybe_ we might get to the single-digit megabytes. I
Linus> doubt it, simply because even with a good buddy allocator and
Linus> a memory manager that actively frees pages to get large
Linus> contiguous chunks of RAM, it's basically impossible to have
Linus> something that can reliably give you that big chunks without
Linus> making normal performance go totally down the toiled.

The Rice people avoided some of the fragmentation problems by
pro-actively allocating a max-order physical page, even when only a
(small) virtual page was being mapped. This should work very well as
long as the total memory usage (including memory lost due to internal
fragmentation of max-order physical pages) doesn't exceed available
memory. That's not a condition which will hold for every system in
the world, but I suspect it is true for lots of systems for large
periods of time. And since superpages quickly become
counter-productive in tight-memory situations anyhow, this seems like
a very reasonable approach.

--david
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