Re: must-fix list for 2.6.0

Bill Huey \ (billh@gnuppy.monkey.org)
Thu, 1 May 2003 04:57:20 -0700


On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 10:40:22PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> Gerrit Huizenga wrote:
> > Which affects JVM in most cases. NPTL based JVMs will possibly
> > obviate that problem. My guess is that in the JVM case, they have
> > a bad locking model (er, a simpler 2-tier locking model instead of
> > a more correct and complex 3-tier locking model) for their threading
> > operations. As a result, they use either sched_yield() or used
> > to use pause() to relinquish the processor so the world could change
> > and they could acquire the locks they wanted.
>
> The JVM's extensive use of sched_yield(), plus the HT scheduler causes
> some pretty undesirable behaviour in SPECjbb(tm) (see disclaimer). It
> starves some pieces of the benchmark so badly, that the benchmark
> results are invalid. We also start to get tons of idle time as the load
> goes up.

Have the Blackdown folks fix that. The Solaris Threads implementation
suppresses the actual call to a yield in the HotSpot VM if it gets too
many of them bunched together in short period of time. It's really a problem
not with the JVM itself, but the Linux implementaion of their threading
glue logic... Make'm fix it. :)

I've heard that a number of folks in Blackdown want to try out the new
threading model, so this might be a good opportunity to do that... add
special thread suspension support, etc...

:)

bill

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