SUMMARY: SGML formatters, non-document SGML use, bibliography

SUMMARY: SGML formatters, non-document SGML use, bibliography

basile@rosser.serma.cea.fr (Basile STARYNKEVITCH)
17 Jan 1995 10:19:36 GMT
Commissariat a l'Energie Atomique - France
Posted to: comp.text.sgml
References: 1 , 2


In message-id <BASILE.95Jan3145342@rosser.serma.cea.fr> and
<BASILE.95Jan3175513@rosser.serma.cea.fr> (same message, with
corrections) I asked about SGML formatters for PostScript printers,
DSSSL+SGML software, and usage of SGML for non-documents (data or
knowledge bases information exchange)


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1) SGML Formatters
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No publicly available SGML formatter producing PostScript output exist
yet.

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sverre.stoltenberg@sum.uio.no and Tom Gordon <thomas.gordon@gmd.de>
told me about qwertz/FORMAT An SGML to LaTeX and nroff/troff
translator produced by the Qwertz Project at the German National
Centre for Computer Science.  ftp to ftp.gmd.de under the directory
/gmd/sgml.


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I (Basile) also found that the Linux Slackware distribution contains a
html2latex utility.


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Debby Young (young@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil) mentionned FOSI;
FOSI is Format Output Specification Instance.  In the United States
military standard application of SGML, MIL-M-28001, there is an output
spec which defines how to print on paper from an SGML instance.


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No publicly available software for DSSSL+SGML exist yet. I understand
or hope that some people are working on such a thing.


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Pertti.Makitalo@hut.fi mentionned GRIF, a commerical text processing
package (made by a french compagny) using SGML.


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karl@Pertron.Central.DE (Karl Eichwalder) mentioned psgml (an emacs
sgml mode) ftp to ftp.gwdg.de:
/pub/sgml/ifi.uio.no/Emacs-LISP/psgml-1a5.tar.gz


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Harry Gaylord <galiard@let.rug.nl> and "Berend J. Dijk"
<dijk@let.rug.nl> also suggested looking into TEI:

In case you have never heard of TEI: the abbreviation stands for the
Text Encoding Initiative, a long-term international project that
involves the development of standards sets of SGML tags for _all_
types of text (at least all they could think of).
It (TEI?) is available at ftp.ifi.uio.no and sgml1.ex.ac.uk


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there are some ISO 12083 standard DTDs for books and articles.


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2) non-document SGML usage
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About non-document SGML usage (for knowledge or data bases), some
people are working on it, but don't want to be cited yet.

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James Clark (jjc@jclark.com) mentionned that ISO 9541-2, uses
SGML for font information interchange.


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"Claude L. Bullard" <bullardc@source.asset.com> mentionned that
<<According to the lawyer that wrote the standard, anything
expressible in SGML is a document.  It is also good if it is
human-readable.>>


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I (Basile) am considering developping a specific SGML DTD for literate
programming of a reflexive AI tool (i'm designing). I'm just beginning
to think about it.



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3) bibliographical DTDs
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In message-ID: <BASILE.95Jan4111513@rosser.serma.cea.fr> I asked about
bibliographical DTDs.


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Harry Gaylord <galiard@let.rug.nl> suggested examining the TEI
dtd. The relevant portions are listBibl, biblFull, bibl, and
biblStruct.  "Berend J. Dijk" <dijk@let.rug.nl> also suggested looking
into TEI:

  You really should have a look at the entry on bibliographical
  references in the TEI P3 Guidelines, part 2, chapter 6, section 10,
  page 193 through 209.  Section 6.10.4 should be of special interest to
  you: it compares all the fields in the bibtex format to the tags in
  TEI.


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Wolfgang Rieger (rieger@colin.muc.de) sent me a bibliographical DTD.

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I hope I summarized correctly. I cited several answers in this summary
(I emailed the authors saying my intent to summarize their answer,
unless they specifically forbid it). I hope I didn't forgot
anyone. Thanks for all replies.

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