Re: Any known ext2 FS problems in 2.4.7?

David Ford (david@blue-labs.org)
Fri, 03 Aug 2001 23:35:37 -0400


Yes I'm sure, this machine has been running for a long time quite well
save the reported problems.

a) fsck on boot, yes
b) manual fsck and reboot every few days, yes
c) fstab is correct :P
d) missing space isn't account for in du, lsof, or any other tool that
i'm aware of
e) 4.5 gigs is a lot of space to eat over a couple days, particularly
when this server's disk use varies by a couple hundred megs per day
f) only the e2fs partition has problems, the other partitions are fine,
no journal replays or otherwise

After a fresh clean fsck'd start, the machine runs fine for a day or
two, then in about one day disk space grinds away. Bringing it to
single user mode with nothing running but the kernel threads and a few
init children, lsof shows nothing but a few libs open, and no deleted or
otherwise open for write files.

All my other machines run fine. Also note as I said, it only does this
under 2.4.7, if I boot into 2.4.5 it will stay up for weeks until the
reported-and-fixed OOPs kills it. No disk space issues there.

David

Andreas Dilger wrote:

>David Ford writes:
>
>>I'm starting to go through a cycle every 2-3 days where I have to bring
>>one particular machine down to init l1, kill any processes and remount
>>RO, then run e2fsck on the e2fs partition. Over that period of time,
>>disk space is eaten without accouting. 'du' shows about 13 gigs used
>>when I sum up all the directories. Roughly 4.5 gigs is missing. During
>>e2fsck, there are many many pages of deleted inodes with zero dtime, ref
>>count fixups, and free inode count fixups. When I say many, I mean that
>>this pIII 667 scrolls for about four minutes...
>>
>>There is nothing special about this partition, it doesn't do it while
>>running 2.4.5-ac15, but I can't use that kernel either because it OOPSes
>>as I reported. That OOPS was fixed for 2.4.7, but this disk space issue
>>is rather frustrating. Fortunately all my other systems are reiserfs
>>and work fine.
>>
>>/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 on / type ext2
>>(rw,usrquota=/usr/local/admin/system-info/quota-home)
>>
>>I haven't mucked with any /proc settings other than "16384"
>> >/proc/sys/fs/file-max. It's also worthy to note that this machine
>>also likes to break and spontaneously reboot about once every day. No
>>klog, no console, no nothing, just bewm. Again 2.4.5 didn't do this.
>>
>
>Are you sure you are running e2fsck on this partition at boot time?
>I mean, if it is rebooting spontaneously every day, but you need to run
>e2fsck manually to clean up the filesystem every 2-3 days, the fsck after
>reboot should already clean up the filesystem for you. If you _don't_
>run e2fsck on this filesystem (you need a non-zero number in the 6th
>column of /etc/fstab) that would explain the problem.
>
>The "missing space" you are seeing is because files are being held open
>(thus not reported by "du", which only can check linked files, but reported
>by "df" which shows the whole filesystem stats). If the files are held
>open at the time of a crash, then you need to run e2fsck to clean up all
>of these "orphans". You should be able to see what process is causing this
>by running "lsof | grep deleted" to find open-but-deleted files.
>
>Note that reiserfs still has the same problem (AFAIK, I don't think it
>is fixed in the stock kernels, although there is a patch available),
>so even though it doesn't _need_ reiserfsck at boot time, you still
>don't get the space back until it is run. If the other machines don't
>crash all the time, the space won't be "lost", so you may not notice it.
>Ext3 cleans up orphans at boot time (no fsck needed).
>
>Cheers, Andreas
>

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