Re: fadvise syscall?

Jeff Garzik (jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com)
Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:28:22 -0500


Anton Altaparmakov wrote:

> We don't need fadvise IMHO. That is what open(2) is for. The streaming
> request you are asking for is just a normal open(2). It will do read
> ahead which is perfect for streaming (of data size << RAM size in its
> current form).
>
> When you want large data streaming, i.e. you start getting worried
> about memory pressure, then you want open(2) + O_DIRECT. No caching
> done. Perfect for large data streams and we have that already. I agree
> that you may want some form of asynchronous read ahead with passed
> pages being dropped from the cache but that could be just a open(2) +
> O_SEQUENTIAL (doesn't exist yet).
>
> All of what you are asking for exists in Windows and all the semantics
> are implemented through a very powerful open(2) equivalent. I don't
> see why we shouldn't do the same. It makes more sense to me than
> inventing yet another system call...

I disagree, and here's the main reasons:

* fadvise(2) usefulness extends past open(2). It may be useful to call
it at various points during runtime.

* I think putting hints in open(2) is the wrong direction to go. Hints
have a potential to be very flexible. open(2) O_xxx bits are not to be
squandered lightly, while I see a lot more value in being a little more
loose and free with the bit assignment for an "fadvise mask" (just a
list of hint bits). IMO it should be easier to introduce and retire
hints, far easier than O_xxx flags.

Jeff

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