Re: fadvise syscall?

Pavel Machek (pavel@suse.cz)
Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:05:43 +0000


Hi!

> > We don't need fadvise IMHO. That is what open(2) is for. The streaming
> > request you are asking for is just a normal open(2). It will do read
> > ahead which is perfect for streaming (of data size << RAM size in its
> > current form).
> >
> > When you want large data streaming, i.e. you start getting worried
> > about memory pressure, then you want open(2) + O_DIRECT. No caching
> > done. Perfect for large data streams and we have that already. I agree
> > that you may want some form of asynchronous read ahead with passed
> > pages being dropped from the cache but that could be just a open(2) +
> > O_SEQUENTIAL (doesn't exist yet).
> >
> > All of what you are asking for exists in Windows and all the semantics
> > are implemented through a very powerful open(2) equivalent. I don't
> > see why we shouldn't do the same. It makes more sense to me than
> > inventing yet another system call...
>
>
>
> I disagree, and here's the main reasons:
>
> * fadvise(2) usefulness extends past open(2). It may be useful to call
> it at various points during runtime.

open(/proc/self/fd/0, O_NEW_FLAGS)?

> * I think putting hints in open(2) is the wrong direction to go. Hints
> have a potential to be very flexible. open(2) O_xxx bits are not to be
> squandered lightly, while I see a lot more value in being a little more
> loose and free with the bit assignment for an "fadvise mask" (just a
> list of hint bits). IMO it should be easier to introduce and retire
> hints, far easier than O_xxx flags.

I don't like idea of new syscall when open works just fine. First prove
O_X hints are usefull, then extend them.
Pavel

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