Re: PROBLEM: knfsd misses occasional writes

[G Sandine]

On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 12:49:01PM +0200, Sverker Wiberg wrote:
> Neil Brown wrote:
> > On Wednesday May 15, [e-mail] wrote:
> > > When copying lots of small files from multiple NFS clients to a kNFSd
> > > filesystem (i.e. doing backup of a cluster), exported with `sync', I
> > > find that some few files (1 out of 1000) were silently truncated to zero
>                                                   ^^^^^^^^
>                                                   no errors reported 
> > 
> > How are you mounting the file systems on the clients?
> > The symptoms sound exactly like you are using "soft" mounts.  "soft"
> > is a very bad mount option.  Use "hard".
> >
> > If you aren't using "soft", let me know and I will look harder.
> 
> Errrm, I am using "soft" mounts, as I (we) want the clients to survive
> server restarts.
> But shouldn't those timeouts become errors over at the clients?

I have seen this too, with a file system exported with rw,no_root_squash
and mounted hard,intr.  We were running vanilla 2.4.18 on the server
and clients.  We have a text file on the server serving to record
employees' time, and one day the time clock file remained a text file
but was truncated to zero.  All further punch ins/punch outs did not
record in the truncated file (user names, dates, and times should have
appended).  Deleting and recreating the text file on a client returned
behavior to normal.  No error messages whatsoever, and it has worked
fine for two weeks as we watch for the behavior to repeat.

Regards,
Gary S.