Re: [LTP] LTP version 20030306

[Robert Williamson]

> We have found that in the past several months that the LTP version
appears
> to become "buggier" with each successive release.
I apologize for the large number of "bugs" in the recent releases, but it
was because we added a large amount of new tests in a short amount of time.
Anyone familiar with the history of the LTP knows that the same thing
happened when we added 500+ new testcases after the move from SGI's site a
few years back.

> From the patches that are coming across this list there are an incredible
> number of problems.
Most of these patches were warning cleanup patches.

> After overcoming problems with the compilation, we are getting between 50
> and 130 failures on 64 and 32 bit versions which with 20030206 we had on
> the order of a dozen.
If you send your problems to the [e-mail], we would be more
than happy to assist you.  Strangely, we have never seen that many problems
when we receive results on i386, s390, s390x, x86-64, IA64, MIPS, or PPC64.

> I have a few questions:
> 1) Is everyone getting a "large" number of false failures?
I cannot answer for everyone, and I'm not sure what a "large" number means.

> 2) Are the tests checked out before being released by SourceForge?
Yes, we build, install, and run every release of the LTP BEFORE we
announce.  We review the failures and check for any build errors.

> 3) Are the tests only verified on Intel?  How about PowerPC and iSeries?
Unfortunately, we are unable to test each release on every architecture
supported by Linux.  We choose to test the release on i386 archs, because
this is the main architecture of choice and the code is usually "cleaner".
Although we try to execute the LTP on s390 and PPC64 archs, we rely on the
Open Source community to run and test the LTP against other non-i386
archs...and submit patches for problems they find.

> 4) Is there a version released after the release that has the 205 patches
> installed?
No.  However, most of those patches you speak of were compiler warning
cleanups and anyone can anonymously pull the latest copy of the LTP from
our CVS tree.

- Robbie

Robert V. Williamson <[e-mail]>
Linux Test Project
IBM Linux Technology Center
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We have found that in the past several months that the LTP version appears
to become "buggier" with each successive release.

number of problems.

After overcoming problems with the compilation, we are getting between 50
and 130 failures on 64 and 32 bit versions which with 20030206 we had on
the order of a dozen.

I have a few questions:
1) Is everyone getting a "large" number of false failures?
2) Are the tests checked out before being released by SourceForge?
3) Are the tests only verified on Intel?  How about PowerPC and iSeries?
4) Is there a version released after the release that has the 205 patches
installed?

Thanks,
Doug Ramier
pSeries /  iSeries Linux Testing
507/253-2186
t/l 553-2186

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